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1. Introduction
2. Job in Dispute
Said R. Yohanan: Greater is the praise accorded to Job than to Abraham. For of Abraham it is written, "For now I know that thou fearest God" (Gen. 22:12) whereas of Job it is written, "a perfect and an upright man, who fears God, and (but) turns away from evil" (Job 1:8)7
There was a certain pious man among the heathen named Job, who came into this world only to receive reward, and when the Holy One, blessed be He, brought afflictions upon him, he began to curse and blaspheme, so the Holy One, blessed be He, doubled his reward in this world so as to expel him from the world to come.…10
Said Raba: “This bears out the popular saying: Either a friend like the friends of Job, or death!”13
Rabbi Yochanan says: What is the meaning of “[And it happened in the days of the] judging of the Judges” (Ruth 1:1)? This indicates a generation that judged its judges. If a judge would say to the defendant: “Remove the splinter from between your eyes”, the defendant would say to him: “Remove the beam from between your eyes”; if the judge would say to him: “your coins are counterfeit”, the defendant would say to him: “Your wine is mixed with water” (Is. 1:22).
3. Justifying God’s Judgment: Mishnah, Berakhot, 9:1 in Dispute
For bad tidings one says: “Blessed [art thou, O Lord our God, King of the universe] who is the true judge.”
For to cry out (in prayer) over the past is to utter a prayer in vain. For instance, If a man's wife is with child and he prays: “May it be Thy will [O God] to grant that my wife bears a male child” this is a prayer in vain. [Similarly] if a person is returning home and he hears cries of distress in the city, and he prays: “May it be Thy will [O God] to grant that this is not in my household”, this is a prayer in vain.
R. Huna b. Ammi said in the name of R. Pedath who had it from R. Yochanan: If one has a distressing dream he should go and have it interpreted in the presence of three.
Why should he interpret it! Has not R. Hisda said that an uninterpreted dream is like an unread letter?
Say rather, then, that he should have it bettered in the presence of three.19
There were twenty-four dream interpreters in Jerusalem. Once I dreamt a dream and I went round to all of them and they all gave it different interpretations, and all were fulfilled, thus confirming that which is said: All dreams follow the mouth (of the interpreter).
And whence do we know that all dreams follow the mouth? Because it says, "And it came to pass, as he interpreted to us, so it was." (Gen 41:13).20
R. Joseph cited the following in objection… What is meant by “after that”?
Rab said: After Leah reasoned thus: Twelve tribes are destined to issue from Jacob. Six have issued from me and four from the handmaids, making ten. If this child will be a male, my sister Rachel will not be equal –[even] to one of the handmaids’. Forthwith the child was turned into a girl, as it says, And she called her name Dinah!
May our Rabbi teach us: If a man’s wife is with child is one allowed to pray 'May it be Thy will that my wife bears a male child' - for so teaches [the Mishnah]: If a man's wife is with child and he prays: 'May it be Thy will [O God] to grant that my wife bears a male child' this is a prayer in vain?
R. Huna in the name of R. Yossi says, despite the fact that [the Mishnah] teaches that “If a man's wife is with child and he prays: ‘May it be Thy will [O God] to grant that my wife bears a male child’ this is a prayer in vain,” [the law] is not so! Rather, one may pray for a son even as she is giving birth, because it is not beyond God’s power to change females to males and males to females.
For so says Jeremiah, “Then I went down to potter’s house, and, behold, he was at work on the wheels. And the vessel that he was making of clay was spoiled in the hand of the potter: so he made it again into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to make it. Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying, O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? said the Lord. Behold, as the clay in the potter's hand, so are you in My hand, O house of Israel.” (Jer. 18:6).
Says the Almighty to Jeremiah: if a potter can break a cruse after he has made it and make it into something else, can I not do likewise to you O House of Israel!?
And similarly in the case of Leah, who after bearing [Jacob] six sons, saw prophetically that twelve tribes were to emerge from Jacob. Having born six already, and pregnant for the seventh time, and with the two sons born to each of the two maidservants, ten had already been born. Therefore, Leah stood, angrily confronting the Almighty,28 saying: Lord of the Universe, twelve tribes are to emerge from Jacob, of which I have six, and am pregnant for the seventh time, and by means of the maidservants two and two, hence there are ten. If this (unborn) child (I am carrying) is also a son, then my sister Rachel’s share will not (even) be that of the maidservants!
The Almighty immediately responded to her prayer and the boy in her womb was rendered a girl …
And why did she name her (daughter) Dinah? Because Leah in her righteousness called the Almighty to task!29
4. Internal Heresy
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| 1 | I use the term ‘Talmudic literature’ as shorthand for the canonic rabbinic literature of late antiquity composed roughly between the beginning of the third to the end of the sixth century CE, comprising the Tannaitic Mishnah, Tosefta and the so-called halakhic midrashim, the Amoraic Palestinian Talmud, the so-called Amoraic aggadic midrashim, and culminating in the Babylonian Talmud, the rabbinic canon’s crowning achievement. For a thorough overview of this literature and more see Safrai (1987) and Safrai, et al (2006, §1). |
| 2 | I am deliberately blurring the distinction labored over in the first two parts of Sagi & Statman (1995) regarding the question of the source of morality’s goodness—namely, whether morality is good because God commanded it, or whether God commanded it because it is good. Premising divine moral perfection renders the question purely theoretical, and hence inconsequential from the believer’s perspective, a conclusion borne out nicely in Part 3 of the work, in which the possibility of a conflict between religion and morality is denied on those grounds. |
| 3 | BT Bava Batra 15a-16b. |
| 4 |
loc. cit 15b |
| 5 | Satan, I believe, is depicted, not as an exegete responding to the biblical text (or as a mischievous evil-doer, for that matter), but as some kind of quality controller who was impressed, not by the Abraham story, but by witnessing him in action, as it were, after Sarah’s death. |
| 6 | Which renders the rabbinic insertion less far-fetched than it might seem. If God deems Job to be religiously superior to anyone else, then that includes Abraham by definition, and Satan doesn’t have to root for him explicitly to make the point. What the insertion does do is to lend the wager depth, drama, and vitality. |
| 7 |
Ibid. emphasis added. |
| 8 | To clarify, no confrontationalist rabbinic voice I’m aware of maintains that God is knowingly evil, God forbid. The presumption throughout is that He means well, but being imperfect, is liable to do wrong unwittingly, for which he needs his human covenantal partners to speak up. |
| 9 | “Better” and “worse” being thin evaluative concepts that are given very different meanings by individuals and communities committed, as God and Satan are, according to the Talmudic passage, to very different vocabularies of thick evaluative concepts. |
| 10 |
loc.cit 15b |
| 11 | Their extremely strained reading of the book’s ending, strongly attests to the strength of their religious commitment. |
| 12 |
loc. cit. 17a. |
| 13 |
loc. cit. 17b. |
| 14 | As Halbertal (2001, 29) has it. |
| 15 | Rozen Zvi (2009), Halbertal ibid. |
| 16 | BT. Berakhot 54a-64a. |
| 17 | For why this is the case, see Fisch (2017), (2019, ch.1) and (2020a). |
| 18 | BT. Berakhot 55a. |
| 19 |
ibid, 55b. |
| 20 |
loc. cit. |
| 21 |
Ibid 56a-56b. |
| 22 | I rendered the Mishnah’s example gender neutral in line with the Bavli’s own midrashic example. |
| 23 | BT. Berakhot 60a. |
| 24 | There is no redundancy in the text, or gap to address. The simple sense of the verse is that after giving birth to the six sons mentioned above Leah then bore a girl she named Dinah. Mazeh (2017) points to minor irregularities in the biblical text, though nothing that justifies going beyond the obvious. |
| 25 | In general, the Bavli will offer more than one answer to a question only if none of them are fully satisfactory, thus inaudibly signaling that the question remains dangling. |
| 26 | The Bavli, as noted, will never challenge a bona fide Mishnaic ruling directly. At times, its understated methods are highly effective, as with regard the laws of lost property (b. Bava Metzia, ch.3, for example (see the close analysis of the entire chapter in Fisch (2019, 179-183) and compare Furstenberg (2005). At other times, however, the point is liable to be missed (as for example in the Bavli’s understated critique of m. Bava Kama 4:3 in BT. Bava kama 38a, as opposed to the Yerushalmi’s far more direct approach: JT. Bava Kama 4:3, as analyzed in Fisch (2019, ch4. §4).) |
| 27 | Midrash Tanhuma-Yelammdenu (ed. S.A. Berman), par. Va-Yetza, 8 (Gen.30:21). For some reason Mazeh (2017) choses to omit the Tanhuma version of the story from his study altogether, focusing only on those found in the Bavli, the Jerusalem Talmud, and Genesis Rabba. By contrast, Wiess (2016, ch.2) posits that what he dubs the “pro-protest tradition” in rabbinic literature “first emerges … most notably in Genesis Rabbah and Lamentations Rabbah and … reaches its fullest expression in the … Babylonian Talmud and … Tanḥuma-Yelammedenu” (p.51). However, in his brief treatment of the Tanhuma version of the Leah story (pp.105-106), Weiss makes no mention of the midrash’s dramatic confrontation with the Mishnah. On the relative antiquity of the Tanhua-Yelammdenu midrashim see Fisch (2019, 130, n.45). |
| 28 | The Hebrew phrase is: amdah Leah ve-haytah mitra’emet lifnei ha-Kadosh Barukh Hu. |
| 29 | The Hebrew reads: amdah be-din lifnei ha-Kadosh Barukh Hu. |
| 30 | In addition to Weiss (2016) and to a lesser extent Mazeh (2017), Brafman (2024, §4.5) cites some of Weiss’s examples to make the point explicitly. None of them, however, go on to explore the form of religiosity to which such atheology gives rise, which I have attempted to do systematically with respect to all four sources of rabbinic Judaism’s religious authority in Fisch (2019). |
| 31 | Which for Brandom (2009) quite exhausts “one’s critical responsibility” with regard to the sum total of one’s commitments (pp.35-40). McDowell (1994) , appealing to Nuerath’s image of a boat overhauled while at sea, maintains that one’s normative framework can be overhauled piecemeal. Neither approach is satisfactory |
| 32 | Especially Fisch and Benbaji (2011) and Fisch (2017, prt.II). |
| 33 | E.g. Taylor (1989, prt.I ch.3), Korsgaard (1996, ch.3), Freidman (2001, prt.I), Jaeggi (2018) |
| 34 | Chief among the latter Kuhn (1962), Wittgenstein (1972), and Rorty (1989). |
| 35 | Fisch and Benbaji (2011, ch.8), Fisch (2017, ch.2). |
| 36 | In recent years, this account of the transformative potential of inter-subjective dialogue (as opposed to the inherent limitations of intra-subjective deliberation) has begun to inspire attempts to explain the dynamics of psychotherapy. For two significant examples see Aron 2017) and Zaidel Aboody (2023). |
| 37 | For fuller versions of the argument see Fisch (2019, ch.1), (2020b), and (2025, lect.3). |
| 38 | See n.1 above. |
| 39 | Which in at least one extraordinarily pregnant passage (in the prolegomena the Amoraic compilation Song of Songs Rabba) it makes explicit. For close readings of that rare text see first Boyarin (1990, chs. 5 and 7), but especially Fisch (2020b, 34-39) |
| 40 | n.36 above. |
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