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1. Introduction
“ When we write down a state of a system of two same-type particles in its symmetric or antisymmetric form, this state is supposed to occupy a tensor product of two identical Hilbert spaces: . Factorism claims that these Hilbert spaces represent states and properties of the particles constituting the system. Consequently, labels 1 and 2 we use to distinguish the two components in the factorisation of the total Hilbert space can be also used to refer to individual particles. Indeed this is what is typically done when interpreting symmetric/antisymmetric states of two particles: the labels used in the description of such states, and concerning which the requirement of symmetry/antisymmetry is imposed, are assumed to refer directly to the particles occupying these states.” [3, §5]
2. Standard Identity
“One might even wonder whether the notion of a particle without identity is not a contradiction in terms: the very concept of a particle, and more generally an object, in daily life and in the practice of physics is bound up with identifiability.” (id.ibid.)
3. The Received View
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1. The objectives of the RV — The RV is occupied mainly with the logical and metaphysical foundations of quantum theories. The main book where such a view is outlined has a subtitle `A historical, philosophical, and formal analysis’. This should be enough to show its main finalities: a formal (logical) analysis of the view that quantum objects can be viewed as non-individuals. Notice in addition that the RV does not preach this vision radically, accepting that there are alternatives in considering quantum objects. In the same mentioned book, it is argued that quantum objects can also be viewed as individuals, provided that only some states are available. This is more or less in the direction Dieks suggests the physicist goes in her usual `practice’. But, as we shall enlighten below, the RV aims also to be careful with the underlying logic, yet such details can be dispensed with in the first moment during applications.Notwithstanding, the RV has applications. Beyond the possibility of expressing formally a metaphysics of non-individuals, it can sustain prolongments in several directions; let us mention some of them: (i) in, it was proposed that, since the Ontological Structural Realism (OSR) [29] lacks an adequate definition of structure, essential for the main idea that all there is are structures, and to them, a structure should be formed by relations but without mentioning the relata. In the mentioned paper, it was proposed that the relata are not `fixed’ in the relations, but can be substituted by indiscernible ones so that the philosophy will not depend on particular relata, but of, let us say, kinds of them. For instance, if we are dealing with electrons, what is important is that they are electrons and not particular electrons. This idea was embraced by S. French in his [30]. This is, of course, a program to be followed. Another possible application concerns mereology, quantum mereology. Standard `extensional’ mereologies [31] assume that a whole is composed of parts and two things are identical when they have the same parts. But what happens if these `parts’ are things like atoms or quantum particles? In standard mereologies, if a part of some whole is exchanged by another part whatever, the whole changes, and becomes something different, but not in quantum physics; the wholes become indistinguishable, which is not the same thing. Furthermore, in quantum physics, an entangled state cannot be `factorised’ in states for each component of the whole; so, how can we speak of the parts in isolation? In these and other questions about the possibility of a `quantum mereology’ are discussed.
- 2. Why to question STI — The criticism of the STI assumed by the RV has a reason. According to this theory, whenever we have more than one object, we need to acknowledge that they are different (`’) and this means that a and b can be discerned by some monadic property and not only by some relation. That is if , then there exists P such that but or the other way around. There is no escape to this conclusion, which is imposed by logic, once one assumes a logic encompassing STI. But we think that today no one disputes the importance of the notion of completely indiscernible particles in quantum physics and its applications. Several examples have shown the necessity of assuming that in certain situations there cannot be even in principle a distinction among the considered quantum entities, as mentioned above (the Hong-On-Mandel effect, among others). For a specific case, take bosons in a bosonic condensate, a BEC (Bose-Einstein Condensate). They may be milliards, all in the same quantum state. It is assumed by the quantum theory that there are no differences among them, and as far as quantum mechanics works, no differences among them can be found. The obedience to quantum statistics (in this case, Bose-Einstein statistics) provides also an argument favouring the RV: without assuming substratum or something else beyond the properties, how can something obey such statistics under the validity of STI? In our opinion, this makes no sense: if it is assumed that bosons (or other quantum entities) cannot be discerned in any way (not even in principle), how can STI hold to them? Notice that we agree with the claim that the physicist can, momentaneously, treat them as individuals endowed with identity, but such an identity has no sense in the wide aspect and should be understood as just a mock identity, as advanced (and acknowledged by Dieks) by Toraldo di Francia [32,33] (see below).
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3. Weak discernibility and discerning properties — As said before, some philosophers have proposed that in certain situations quantum entities (both bosons and fermions) cannot be discerned `absolutely’, that is, by a monadic predicate, but just by an irreflexive and symmetric relation. They call it weak discernibility (see [34] for references and discussion). We have discussed elsewhere such a proposal and will not revise it here, but just make some general remarks; for details, see. The fact is that if the underlying logic encompasses STI, as classical logic these philosophers are assuming does, there is no escape to the conclusion that for any object y (say in the universe of sets and atoms) we can define the property `identity of y’ by positing (now without any individual constant) something like . Since the unitary set can be assumed to exist for every y, then y is the only object having such a property. There is no surprise concerning this, for it is exactly what STI says. However, the mentioned philosophers are not satisfied with such a logical imposition. They refuse that a `logical property’ can individuate a thing, saying that the discerning property must be `physical’, something `measurable’. This supposition introduces a lot of other difficult questions, such as (a) what is a `physical property’? (b) what is a `measurable property’? (c) why such a bias to avoid logical implications in a theory? — see below, Section 4. There are no clear answers to these questions. We think that by `measurable property’ we can understand whatever property to which we can ascribe the epithet `true’ or `false’ when compared with some value or set of values (for instance, whether a certain observable has a value in some specific Borelian set). For instance, `the volume of that portion of water is half a litre’ can be true or false depending on the portion of water. But also `the spin of the electron in the z direction is UP’ and `x belongs to the unitary set of y’ are `measurable’ in this sense. So, we don’t see any reason to restrict the properties (hence the formulas) involved in the axioms of STI. As Shoenfield insists, “the symbol `∀’ [used in the definition of identity in STI] means for all” [35, p.13], and we could add `and not for some’. Thus, when we say (even if in the metalanguage) that in being identical x and y satisfy all the same formulas, we are not restricting the phrase to `some formulas’ (or predicates).On the contrary, the theory of quasi-sets may be the right place to formalise the weak discernibility claim. We can suppose a qset with two indiscernible m-atoms and with quasi-cardinal two so that there is an irreflexive but symmetric relation holding between them. No monadic property is supposed to exist. In the classical example of the two electrons of a neutral Helium atom, the property `to have spin opposite to’ exemplifies the case. The idea that electrons are so discerned but are not discerned by a monadic property can be formalised in , but not in ZFC.
- 4. Isolation — We have remarked already that with regard to quantum objects being distinct in certain situations conflates the notions of identity and isolation, or individuation. Identity is a logical notion, given by some `theory of identity’ such as STI; individuation is an epistemological notion of taking something in a situation that can give us the impression that we are facing an isolated individual with an identity. For instance, a case also explored by Dieks speaks of isolation and not of identity. Quantum objects located in traps in distant places (say the South Pole and the North Pole) are isolated or individuated, being able to be momentaneously treated as individuals, but they are not individuals since they do not satisfy re-identification, something required by something `having identity’. Later we shall further analyse this example.
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5. Factorism — Dieks criticizes the RV also because this view presupposes that quantum objects are the basic tenet of the theory and labels such as `’, `’, etc are given to these entities, causing what he calls the factorizing account (a term borrowed from A. Caulton [6]). According to this view, labels such as `’ and `’ refer to particles and this would cause them to be able to be absolutely discerned by a monadic property. As Dieks and Lubberdink say, “the factor space labels [in the N-fold tensor product of Hilbert spaces] should not be thought of as referring to single particles” and the tensor product, in their interpretation, does not have the form of a concatenation of one-particle states [34]. They attribute such a `complication’ to the symmetrization postulates:“As the symmetrization postulates apply universally and globally to all particles of a given kind (…), `factorists’ must hold that each single electron [say] is equally present at all positions in the universe.”Not at all! As anticipated already above, `identical’ particles share the Bell state (their Equation (1))are not both at L (left) together with all other particles of the universe (of the same kind). They share that state while a measurement is not made, but as a vector of , this does not imply that we are identifying that particle (say, `Peter’) as the particle whose states are represented by vectors at and which is at L. No, the tensor product just says that we have one particle in each position (or around it) without saying which one is it. The identification makes no sense, as is well known. They add that “[i]t is therefore impossible to individuate the `factorist particles’ via different physical characteristics.” The defenders of the AV claim that, when dealing with (say) two quantum systems of the same kind, let be the Hilbert space for the states of one of the systems. For the joint system, the states are represented in the tensor product and them “the first and the second factors in the product correspond to individual particles,” ([2, p.117]) suggesting that they are being individualized. But the RV does not say that; the fact that the states are in the tensor product does not compel us to discern the particles, as it would be obvious.While sharing the Bell state, we know that there is no way to individuate them; as explained one of the main references of the heterodox view, a paper by Ghirardi and colleagues [36], “when one is dealing with assemblies of identical quantum systems it is simply meaningless to try to `name’ them in a way or another,” and also that (when in an entangled state), “one cannot pretend that a particular one of them has properties.” Only the whole system has properties, as the quantum theory says. In the above case, the identification, say that one of the particles is at L, comes only with the measurement. Maybe this emphasises the role of the underlying logic (or mathematics); the two particles are two and even if there are no physical characteristics that discern them, there are the logical ones once we remain with STI. But if we wish, as it seems clear, to maintain that before measurement the particles are `really’ indiscernible, then STI must be placed aside.In general, the authors forget that, even implicitly, they assume something like ZFC since they seem to reason with the classical logic canons. Thus, in a system of N quantum systems, the state space is the `factored’ tensor product of the Hilbert spaces of each system. The indices are labelling both the H-spaces and the particles. But this is not so in the -spaces built in . There, there are no particle labels that significantly, tag the particles. Maybe this would satisfy Dieks et al.The RV intends to consider entities of the kind just referred to; it assumes that, whatever their origin, they are better characterised as non-individuals, even if resulting from quantum fields or strings. We reinforce that the RV does not refuse the alternatives that the literature presents us, Dieks’ inclusive, but proposes a different approach. If Dieks argues that the RV is wrong, then there is no other alternative than to say that it is so wrong as the approach he proposes.
- 6. Isolation does not entail identity — In the RV, `identical particles’ (in the physicist’s jargon), that is, indistinguishable particles of the same species, can have different properties, say when localised in different traps, or when having different directions of spin. As seen before, Dieks suggests that the RV entails that all such particles have exactly the same properties. We never found where French and Krause (some of the main proponents of the RV) are saying that or making such a hypothesis. The two electrons in a neutral Helium atom are fermions and have opposite values of spin in a given direction, so cannot have all the same properties and values. Their indistinguishability results because they share the same entangled state, a state that cannot be separated into two states, one in each factor of the tensor product, as the Bell state above. If there is some quantum system (a positron, say) in a quantum trap, this should be regarded as an isolated entity, not as an individual. The notion of `mock’ (or `fake’) identity is useful here. The non-individuality is linked more with the impossibility of re-identification, but isolation is possible, as discussed in the case of Hans Dehmelt’s positron `Priscilla’ (see [1]). Just to summarize, Priscilla was a positron trapped in Dehmelt’s laboratory and supposedly, she had an identity because of that. But this is not so; recalling David Hume once more, a single object gives us the idea of unity, not of identity [p.200]. If Priscilla were an individual, she would carry her identity whenever she goes, but this is not what happens; as we know from quantum theory, quantum entities don’t have genidentity, something acknowledged by Dieks himself. Individuals can have proper names which serve to re-identify them in other contexts; these proper names act as rigid designators in Kripke’s sense, something not available in quantum physics [9]. `Priscilla’ was the name given to the trapped positron, but she has nothing special concerning any other positron beyond the fact that `she’ is in the laboratory; she is not like Cleopatra for sure, who had an identity.
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6. The bank account analogy — Dieks goes further. He criticises the theory of quasi-sets by stating that to use such a theory to discuss the bank account analogy would be “an extravagant decision”. Not at all! We think that quasi-sets can explain nicely what happens with such an analogy, something that a standard set theory cannot do. Let us explain, even if briefly. The bank account analogy was introduced by Schrödinger [37] and used for instance by Paul Teller [38] to exemplify quantum non-individuality. Suppose I have € 100 in my bank account. Is there a sense in asking for my particular euros, that is, to suppose that there are in the bank some particular euros that are exactly my hundred euros? Not at all, and here enters an important feature of the RV: what import are the qualities (of the things, that is, their kinds), say `euros’, and their quantities, say hundred. No particular euro exists as being mine. The same happens in chemistry and, in a more general situation, with quantum theory. In a water molecule H2O, what import is that we have two Hydrogen atoms and one Oxygen atom distributed in a certain way, and not which particular atoms we have. Kinds and quantities. It is precisely this that the theory of quasi-sets enables us to consider. Symbolically, we could write in terms of quasi-sets the above molecule as , while my account could be associated with . If we have two accounts in two distinct banks, one in New York with $ 200 and another in Paris with € 100, we can write . No identification, no identity is attributed to particular dollars and euros.Quasi-set theory enlarges standard set theory (say the ZFA system) by enabling us to consider collections (quasi-sets) with a cardinal, but with no associated ordinal, as explained already. It is a theory that goes in the direction of the problem posed by Yuri Manin when he asked for a `more general’ theory of collections to cope with indistinguishable quantum objects (see [39] and Section 8.4 below).
- 8. Permutations — In a comment on quasi-sets, Dieks claims that “if labels cannot be defined, permutations as ordinarily defined makes no sense”. This is correct; a quasi-set with N indistinguishable elements of kind k is indistinguishable (and not `identical’) to any quasi-set with N indistinguishable elements of the same kind k. They would be identical iff there were no two collections, but just one, according to the definition of extensional identity. The idea can be extended to the situation with more kinds of things so that we can say that two sulphur acid molecules are indistinguishable, H2SO4≡ H2SO4 in the quasi-sets notation. A permutation can modify things in this case; although Dieks did not comment on this point, we suppose it is relevant and deserves mention. In the acid molecule, of course, there is no sense in permuting Oxygen atoms among them or Hydrogen atoms among them. But we can modify the format of some molecules by re-arranging their components and getting different things. This is the case, for instance, when isomers are considered, that is, substances that have the same molecular formulas with the same number of atoms of each element, but the atoms are arranged differently in space. To consider the form of something constituted by different kinds of things and their respective quantities, our suggestion is to develop a quantum mereology, something not achieved yet (see [40] and below). Thus, by specifying how a whole is formed by its parts, maybe we arrive at a way to approach the form of an entity.
4. The Role of the Underlying Logic
5. The Infinitesimals Analogy
“This is the reason why an engineer, when discussing a drawing, can temporarily make an exception to the anonymity principle14 and say for instance: `Electron a issued from point S will hit the screen at P while electron b issued from T hits it at Q.’ But this mock individuality of the particles has very brief duration. When the electron hits the screen (…) it meets with other electrons with substantial overlapping, and the individuality is lost. In fact the de Broglie wavelength of an electron inside an atom is on the same order of magnitude as the atomic diameter.”
6. Dieks’ Proposal: the Alternative View
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7. Conclusions
8. Appendix
8.1. The Relevance of the Notion of Identity
8.2. Emulating non-individuals
8.3. Identity for m-atoms
8.4. Quantity by Not Ordering
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Acknowledgments
9. On `Physical’ Properties
Of course, it is crucial that the properties and relations used to discern the particles be physical; we cannot appeal to elements of the theory’s mathematical formalism that have no representational function. Thus, for example, we cannot discern two particles in an assembly merely by appealing to the fact that the Hilbert space for that assembly is a tensor product of two copies of a factor Hilbert space. For all we know, this representative structure may be redundant; there may in fact only be one particle. So we must instead appeal to quantities in the formalism which genuinely represent physical quantities. Like Muller, Saunders, and Seevinck [a third author that has contributed to the issue], I call this sort of legitimate discernment ‘physical discernment’. I call instances of spurious discernment ‘mathematical discernment’ – Muller and Saunders instead use the phrase ‘lexicon discernment’, but it is important to distinguish between mathematical objects (like Hilbert spaces) and mathematical language. Thus, I restrict (HB) above [this is the Hilbert-Bernays’ definition of identity] to contain only physical predicates; mathematical predicate (such as set membership `∈’) are not to be included.”
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| 1 | `Great logic’, or Logica Magna, in the words of E. W. Beth, is “a logical system which enables us to deduce the totality of pure mathematics without an appeal to any specific axioms” [7, p.230]. Of course, we can add a standard set theory such as the ZFC system (here considered) under such an epithet. |
| 2 | Concerning the role (or the absence of any) of haecceities in quantum mechanics, see [18]. |
| 3 | See below section 8.2. |
| 4 | In the finite case, every object can be named, say a, so the formula , once proven that there exists just one thing obeying , definesa (which can be the name of the defined entity) [20]. |
| 5 | This does not entail that we cannot define an identity for the m-atoms, as we show in subsection 8.3, but does not assume that. |
| 6 | Since any object `changes’ with time, to keep the Principle of the Identity of Indiscernibles holding, sometimes philosophers accept that diachronic identity exists when the objects are numerically distinct in different times but still connected by such an identity. See [22]. |
| 7 | David Hume, for instance, claims that we attribute identity to an object when we observe that there is a continual succession of perceptions in our mind [p.65] [24,§2.7]. His Principle of Individuation “is nothing but the invariableness and uninterruptedness of any object”’ — Hume idem, p.201. |
| 8 | This remark is posed because, as is known, there are different and non-equivalent definitions of natural numbers. |
| 9 | Hans Reichenbach says that they don’t have `material genidentity’, but only `functional genidentity’ (op.cit.). |
| 10 | The reason is easy to explain. Suppose that A means `the spin of the particle was measured in the z-direction and found UP’, while B means `the spin of the particle was measured in the x-direction and found DOWN’. Now, measure the spin in the z-direction again. Will we find A again? Quantum physics says that there are 50% of chances only. |
| 11 | A theory is axiomatic if we can effectively know — by a computer program, say — whether a given formula is an axiom; see [16, p.34]. |
| 12 | Notice that the coordinates do not provide identity to the particles, but just say that one is in the North Pole while the other is in the South Pole; the identity of the particles don’t matter, mainly if they are of the same kind. |
| 13 | This principle states that for all vectors (states) , all operators , and all particle label permutation operators P, we have , that is, the expectation values are the same before and after a permutation. |
| 14 | [According to them, quantum physics is the land of anonymity, where proper names make no sense since they to not play the role of rigid designators, as it would be if the involved entities were individuals.] |
| 15 | The partial tracing is an operation used when the join system is described by a density operator and enables us to consider the trace (which gives us the expectation values) of some component of the total system even if the whole state is entangled. But it should be remarked that if the systems are of the same kind, it is not relevant which is the particular system we are taking into apart. |
| 16 | A response to Bueno is presented in [61]. Again recurring to the example of a BEC, would the entities that form a BEC (atoms, say) not be `entities’ of some kind? If you accept this claim, how can you say that they do have identities? |
| 17 | We remember that Yuri Manin says that quantum mechanics (and quantum physics in general) has no `proper’ language, making use of a fragment of the standard functional calculus [52, p.84], of course with the introduction of criteria that enable us to mimic indiscernible things. |
| 18 | But recall once more that we cannot assert that such an element isw for to say that we need identity: the element of the qset is just `identical’ to w. |
| 19 | In [56], Bueno suggests giving up any set theory to treat non-individuals; the idea looks interesting, but he speaks in the general the idea still deserves consideration, for instance, which would be the mathematical framework to do that. |
| 20 | Notice that this axiom is postulating that . |
| 21 | See also the alternative approach proposed by E. Wajch in [57]. |
| 22 | For instance, the online journal Review of Scientific Instruments 77, 023106 (2006); doi: 10.1063/1.2163977 reported the creation of a BEC with circa atoms; https://shorturl.at/kPW35
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| 23 | This is similar to go to an extended structure in the sense to be explained below in the Conclusions. |
| 24 | We shall not enter in the discussion whether set theory, formulated in a first-order language, remains within the scope of first-order theories since its capacity of expression is greater than that. |
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